What are states doing about dangerous old people on the road?

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Here we are, some more news about old people and their awful driving. This particular article comes from Fox News and is entitled States Under Pressure to Restrict Older Drivers.

SHILOH, Ill. — After an 84-year-old driver plowed through an elementary school lunchroom this week, killing an 8-year-old boy, his mother pressed lawmakers to bar the elderly from getting behind the wheel.

“We very much support a mandatory limit on the driving age for seniors,” Amanda Wesling wrote in a missive directed at driver Grace Keim, who authorities say was en route to a driving class at a senior citizen’s center Monday when she struck Ryan Wesling.

I don’t necessarily support a mandatory age where a person’s license should be taken away, however, I do support testing at regular intervals for individuals at an advanced age equally as arbitrary as the drinking age, or the age of adulthood. Hmm, 55 is senior citizen age, right? How about everyone has to take a driving test every two years after the age of 55, and then every year after the age of 70. Sounds fair.

While many states have enacted or are considering tougher testing for older drivers, they’re weighing those changes against the rights of millions of older people to have the independence a license allows.

The rights of millions of older people to drive? Excuse me? Every damn holiday, I am reminded by some self-important, drunk-on-power, righteous hump from the Ohio State Highway Patrol, via a local newscast, that driving is a privilege and that drinking and driving and getting caught will subject you to Ohio’s unconstitutional OVI ordeal. (Thank God we have the state to babysit us.) What’s the sudden right old people have to drive that the rest of us don’t?

“The issue is not age; it has to do with the person’s physical and mental limitations, and that goes beyond age,” said Beverly Moore of Illinois’ AARP.

It does go beyond age, but age is certainly a major congtributing factor. The greater your age, the more likely you are to experience serious mental and physical limitations that impair your driving. In fact, a 70 year-old driver may be as dangerous as a drunk driver. I’d say that’s pretty serious. The damn highway patrol needs to do its job and crack down on these dangerous old people the same way they obsess over drunk drivers and cell phone users. How about some rights-violating DOA (Driving Over Age) checkpoints strategically set up to catch these killers?

Older drivers, she says, still tend to be more cautious behind the wheel, and family members can be involved in helping decide when a driver should give up the keys.

Studies have shown that vision, reaction time and other driving skills can diminish as drivers age.

They’re not “cautious”, they’re reacting more slowly - and more dangerously.

Drivers 85 and older are about as likely to be involved in a fatal crash as those ages 16 to 19, but they’re more likely to die than others in car crashes because their bodies are frailer, according to the institute.

I hope the fact that old people are as likely to cost the insurance companies money as teenagers is reflected in their insurance premiums each month. Somehow I doubt it. Wait, they’re more frail, so they’re more injured, or dead, so they probably cost the insurance companies more per accident for the same number of accidents. How much are those premiums again?

While sympathetic to Ryan’s family, 67-year-old Joan Juergens considers his death “totally a freak occurrence” that shouldn’t require stiffening Illinois’ licensing requirements for older drivers.

“I don’t think you can broadbrush one age group and say it can’t drive anymore. It’s unfair,” Juergens said.

No, but you can certainly broadbrush anyone who uses a cell phone, or anyone who has two beers in an evening and curtail their driving. That’s certainly fair.

Any person, no matter what their age or what the circumstance, who cannot properly control a vehicle and who cannot keep up with the flow of traffic is dangerous. Period. The law and those who enforce it choose to select certain targets based on sympathy or lack thereof, not any kind of objective reasoning. Evidence supports that fact that old drivers are a hazard on the road, so don’t insult my intelligence by telling me they have a “right” to drive, or that they’re more “cautious”. State your case for what it is: You feel sorry for them, and you don’t have time to drive around your 80 year-old mother. And if you’re a politician, you know old people vote, and if you take away their licenses, your sorry ass is out of a job. A little intellectual honesty goes a long way, and lack of facts or reason, especially in Ohio, doesn’t mean you won’t get your way.

6 Responses to “What are states doing about dangerous old people on the road?”

  1. chuck goolsbee Says:

    Actually, the real problem is that getting, and KEEPING a driver’s license in the USA is just way too damn easy. Our driver training programs are a complete joke. American drivers are a complete joke. A semester in driver’s ed, then a written test which is really mostly a propaganda piece for MADD… then mail in your renewal every 10 years or so.

    “Enforcement” is really just either revenue collection, or a politically expedient campaign against drunk driving. No lawmaker ever looked bad by proposing we drop the BAC another percentage point. So what we have is a law enforcement arm that makes felons of average citizens for driving and behaving normally, while simultaneously doing nothing about actually training drivers to drive properly.

    Look at any (northern) European country as an example of how it can be done better. In Germany, obtaining a license to drive is a thorough, difficult process. They manage to drive with NO SPEED LIMIT on their highways ONLY because every damn one of them is highly trained, and very competent behind the wheel. They understand lane discipline and the physics of driving. They don’t talk on cell phones or drink gigantic cups of coffee while driving. They also don’t drive big trucks pretending to be cars.

    Your focus is off, by a far margin Aaron. It should be difficult for EVERYONE to get and keep a driver’s license. By applying that criteria across the board, regardless of age, then you will get the result you desire without muddying the issue with age issues.

    –chuck

  2. Peter Gøthgen Says:

    Amen,
    I’ve blogged about this a few times myself (linking back to your earlier posts). A person’s “right to mobility” stops the moment it affects everyone else’s right to not be run down by someone who can’t handle their vehicle. As the baby boomers continue to age, and start to feel the lingering effects of all the drugs they fried their brains with, this problem’s only getting worse. By the time I have kids, I think I may need to upgrade my Jetta to an AT-AT. Do they come with iPod connections?

  3. Aaron Adams Says:

    Chuck,
    As usual, I think we’re arguing the same point but from two different angles. My usual mode of mockery and sarcasm doesn’t carry over well to the web. (Illustrating absurdity by becoming absurd is how I like to think of it.)

    We need a rigorous, logical, consistent method to license distribution and traffic enforcement. Instead, we have what you described. The state grants a license to any half-wit, and consequently, half-wits enforce traffic laws and treat everyone who drives as if they are a half-wit, regardless of actual wittage. (Not a word, I know. If news organizations can use “tasered” with a straight face, I can say “wittage” on my little unimportant blog.) In this particular case, age is the current arbitrarily chosen factor among many that will be used to determine whether someone is eligible to drive. Consequently, some complain that the arbitrary factor that affects them isn’t as critical as the other arbitrary factors that don’t. When factors are arbitrarily chosen and enforced, who they affect, when and where, loses its significance. When the law becomes based on emotion rather than rational thought, everyone loses.

  4. Aaron Adams Says:

    Peter,
    Every day I find a new reason to consider moving into one of those anti-government compounds in Idaho where everyone is armed. Old people driving with their drug-fried brains is today’s reason. Thank you. :)

  5. chuck goolsbee Says:

    Ask your doctor if Idaho is right for you.

    Warning: Side effects include dim wittage, taserings, and an uncomfortable proximity to Utah.

  6. Willie Says:

    Its definately not the age that is the problem, its the mental capability of that person. That being said, incidents with “elderly” people do happen and seem to make the news everytime it does, but what about the 40,000 people who die on the nations highway each year that has nothing to do with the “elderly” person.

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